By Laura Kestner, Editor

Parents with children who raise show animals made an appearance at the most recent regular session of the DeLeon City Council, Thursday, September 27.

Councilwoman Gayle Stroud was absent, but Mayor Danny Owen, Howard Gifford, Norma Locke and Roy Dale Freeman were present for the 6 p.m. meeting. Also present were City Secretary Karen Wilkerson, Public Works Administrator Rob Duncan, Police Chief Ralph Dickey, and Emergency Management Coordinator Ray Helberg.

There were no participants in the “Citizen’s Presentation” portion of the meeting.

DeLeon resident Sandra Paul addressed the Council regarding the animal ordinance.

After giving her address, Paul said, “I was told a couple of times this summer by Mr. Crawford (animal control officer) that we were not in compliance with our show animals, with the ordinance. I didn’t realize that. I knew kids were allowed to have FFA animals, mine have done it for nine years now. We didn’t know. Later, it seems that our names were written down and taken to the school and given to the high school principal and then, later on, to the ag teacher saying we were not in compliance and if we were to get animals, we’d get fined for it.”

Paul said she was concerned for several reasons.

“Why didn’t he come to us and give us a copy of the ordinance?” Paul said. After obtaining a copy of the ordinance, Paul said she read it and discovered that an animal has to be kept 100 feet from a neighboring property.

“Well, my own house is not 100 feet from either one of my neighbors,” Paul said. “So I don’t know how we’re supposed to get an FFA project 100 feet from somebody elses property.”

In response to several questions from the council, Paul said that her family doesn’t currently have any FFA project animals, but that the two they had last year were pigs.

“We do not get any more than two,” Paul said. “This year, it will be one. We’ve never had a neighbor complain, not one.”

Paul said she believed that being able to show animals was very important for students.

“We’ve got a great group of kids to work with,” Paul said, “and a good group of adults. We love every minute of it.”

“If I remember correctly,” Councilman Gifford said, “we tried to make exceptions for the FFA and 4-H (when adopting the ordinance) so that they could have their animals. But whether we’re talking about that, or about cats and dogs, didn’t we say that the animal control officer doesn’t roam the town looking for violators? We had this (the ordinance) so that if there were complaints we would have guidelines to go by.”
“That was my intention,” Mayor Owen agreed. He then added that he’d grown up in FFA, as had his daughter, and that he’d kept animals in town and knew there were ways to keep the odors down. He also discussed having adequate room in the pens.

“I would like to see a way where we could exempt these projects,” Owen said. “Where that the kids could continue to have their animals in town. But with an ordinance, it gives us the power that if the parents or the child doesn’t do what they need to do, and we get complaints, then we are able to step in and take action if need be.” Mayor Owen then mentioned that with a town of more than 2400 citizens, that’s how many “bosses” the council has.

“So it’s hard to make everybody happy,” Owen said. “But I’m a true believer in 4-H and FFA. I think it teaches responsibility and showmanship. And I think that’s a good start in life.”

Council members Roy Dale Freeman, Norma Locke and Howard Gifford expressed similar sentiments. Gifford also noted that Sandra Paul was fortunate to have had such good neighbors through the years.
After a bit more discussion, Paul noted, “I think we’re very fortunate to be able to raise our kids here, on the income that people make around here. And I’m very thankful that we can.”

“I think if the neighbors have not complained, then I don’t see why we should complain,” Freeman said.
When audience member Avery Carlisle asked if there had been any complaints since Danny Owen was Mayor, Owen said he’d heard one complaint, but he wasn’t sure of the source, and he believed it had been in regards to how long the animals were kept in town, after the livestock shows had concluded. “Someone had made allegations that people show their pig, and then take forever to get rid of it,” Owen said.
There was then a general discussion among the council and the audience, including one of the local ag teachers, regarding medicated feed, and the need to keep the animal 30 days after the last show, before selling or slaughtering it.

When it was noted that Chuck Crawford had gone to the Livestock Association meeting and handed out information about the new ordinance, Mayor Owen said, “He told me he was going to hand all this out, and I was hoping it would be just to the point of letting everybody be knowledgeable about the ordinance.”
“Most of them took it as a threat,” Carlisle said.

Owen spoke again about how he believed it was important for students in a small town, with little else to do, to have things like FFA and 4-H.

Finally, Councilman Howard Gifford made a motion to “Continue as usual (regarding project animals) unless there are complaints.” Roy Dale Freeman provided the second, noting that he’d grown up participating in FFA and 4-H type programs and found them to be very beneficial in life. The vote to approve was unanimous.

Police Department

A discussion of hourly pay versus salary for Chief Ralph Dickey was next on the agenda.

Due to the department being shorthanded (Officer Waverly Inman was injured in a motorcycle accident and Cpl. Robert Kluge recently resigned) the overtime pay for the three remaining officers has been high.

“Ralph had asked me about this,” Mayor Owen said, “and due to being short-handed and the hours that he’s been putting in, and not really being able to take any kind of comp time due to being so short-handed, he was asking if we could extend the period where he’s staying hourly until more staff is available. I told him we had to discuss this in council. He and his officers are working quite a bit of overtime and I can understand his concern.”

“I have some questions,” Councilman Gifford said to Chief Dickey. “Have you been able to utilize the Sheriff’s Department, the deputies, to cover some of the shifts for you? I know in the past, when we got short-handed, that the Sheriff’s Department was willing to send a deputy over sometimes to help cover a shift to give you a chance to give your officers some time off – when you all were going to school. Have you been able to utilize them any?”

“I talked to the Sheriff today,” Dickey said. “Every now and then, like when we went to school…he doesn’t mind. But if we want him to send somebody over to cover a shift, it’s time and a half for his deputy, plus mileage.”

Gifford said he thought that since DeLeon was part of the County, and they were a County Sheriff’s office, that they didn’t mind coming and help covering the town.

Dickey repeated that every now and then wasn’t a problem, but that on a regular basis there would be a charge.

“Is there a possibility that you could rotate the use of them in that capacity, and maybe rotate some shifts, where they’re not in for a full shift?” Gifford said.

“I don’t know,” Dickey said. “Trying to work a schedule around something like that, and the only ones who could do it are the ones who are off (duty). And they’ve got to want to do it.”

“We can only use deputies who are off duty?” Gifford said. “Don’t they cover DeLeon on a regular basis because we’re part of Comanche County?”

“They cover the county, not the city, unless we need back-up,” Dickey said. “If we need help, if we need back-up, they’ll come and help us, just like we do with them.”

“It was my understanding that we had a good working relationship with them,” Gifford said.

“We still do,” Dickey said.

At that point, Gifford asked how the search was going for a new officer.

“I haven’t received a single application back,” Dickey said.

When Gifford asked where the city was advertising for an officer, Karen Wilkerson noted that ads had been placed on the TML (Texas Municipal League) website, and in the Free Press.

Gifford said he thought the city was going to advertise in locations where there were police academies, just before their scheduled graduations.

Chief Dickey said the academies were in Brownwood and Weatherford, and that he didn’t know the exact date of graduation. Further discussion revealed that Dickey and Wilkerson had investigated the cost of advertising in these cities, and at almost $400 for two weeks, found it to be cost prohibitive. Dickey also mentioned that Brownwood offers a starting salary of $25 per hour for new officers.

“Do they usually have 100 percent hire at graduation?” Gifford said.

Dickey said that depended on several factors, including the size of the graduating class.

After a brief discussion on police academies in general, the conversation shifted to perhaps reaching out to students through career day programs, or recruiting locally and offering to help pay for someone to go to the academy -- and the pros and cons of such an idea. Gifford acknowledged that that would be starting from “ground zero.”

Gifford then asked Dickey if he’d been able to locate any (unpaid) reserve officers.

“I can’t find any who want to reserve,” Dickey said. He then added that the Sheriff’s Department was also having trouble finding officers.

“I know there’s a shortage of police officers everywhere,” Gifford said. “Everybody’s talking about not having enough officers on the street. And I know how much money you can make in big cities. But I also know there are a lot of people, whether it’s in police work or other kinds of work, who would rather make a lot less money and live in DeLeon and have the security and comfort of living in a city like this as opposed to living in a big city like Dallas and Austin.”

Dickey agreed that there were people who would probably prefer to live in DeLeon, but that the money just wasn’t there to attract them. And not just in DeLeon, but in the whole county.

“If we don’t get some industry in here, and put people to work and produce some tax money,” Dickey said, “before long you’re not going to have any police officers. Simply because Brownwood’s only 40 miles from here. And Early pays like $16 an hour. Well here, we’re starting out at $10.50. And if you’ve got a person with two or three kids, and he can do the same job in Early or Brownwood for...more money, where are they going to go? It’s nothing against us, it’s everywhere. All of our smaller towns who do not have the industry...we’re going to have to do something, because we can’t compete.”

“What is your current plan on getting the positions filled?” Gifford then asked. “Do you have a strategy, or a plan of action to take? Or are you just going to leave that out there until somebody applies?”

“If you’ve got any suggestions I’d be more than happy to hear them,” Dickey said.

“I don’t,” Gifford said. “And I’m not trying to be hard on you. But I don’t know if I can sit here and say ‘yeah, we’ll keep paying them all 40 hours a week in overtime.’ Definitely, we need some type of plan.”

Gifford then said that having a plan might mean that DeLeon would need to raise it’s base salary, or perhaps become more aggressive in its advertising.

“I can say this,” Dickey said. “Physically and mentally, the three (officers) you have now cannot keep this up for a long period of time.”

The Council then discussed more options for advertising, including other websites in addition to TML.
“I’m just looking for ideas so that we can come up with a niche,” Gifford said. “There might be an officer who’s been in Dallas for two or three years, and they’re making the big bucks, but man they’re ready to get their wife and kid out of that place.”

“They’re probably looking on TML,” Dickey said, before adding, “I don’t have an answer, I just don’t know.”

“I know we got more hits on the TML (website ad) when I didn’t put the starting pay,” Wilkerson said.
Gifford again discussed the importance of appealing to an applicant who was interested in the other things DeLeon had to offer, and not just money.

“I know DeLeon has a lot of problems that the citizens don’t realize, that the police have to deal with,” Gifford said, “and it’s getting more critical all the time.

Chief Dickey pointed out, that at times, there are benefits to working for the bigger departments, including the fact that those officers often work in specific “grids” and that help is available at any given moment. If an officer needs help, other officers can respond quickly from several nearby grids.

“Here, you’ve got to wake somebody up,” Dickey said. “And in a large city, an officer never has to respond to a domestic disturbance by himself. Here, we do it day in and day out.”

After still more discussion, Dickey said that he understood that the city only has a certain amount of money to work with.

Gifford said that was true, but if the city was seriously “under” in what they were paying, then they might need to make adjustments.

“And we’re going to have to find a way to do that,” Gifford said. “If that means that we’re going to have to take our annual budget for five officers, and somehow pay four with it, and then somehow figure out a way to work a shift to where we can work four officers until we can get the tax base to do it – we’ve got to do something. Like you said, you’ve got three officers doing the work of what five officers used to do, and the longer we put it off, the more the risk is that we’re going to be down to two officers.”

There was still more discussion, about the starting pay in other small towns, and everyone agreed that DeLeon wasn’t the lowest. But with more money available near by in Brownwood and Abilene, it was still difficult to get applicants.

“I’m more concerned with what we’re going to do further down the road,” Gifford said, “than what we’re paying you in the interim. I’d like to see some ideas put together as to how we’re going to address the problem.”

Mayor Owen said he thought they needed to get more aggressive in their advertising, and spread out to a bigger area, and everyone agreed, despite the cost.

“My thought is, that as long as we have three officers, on a five officer force, we need to get really aggressive in our search until we get at least one position filled,” Gifford said.

“I agree,” Chief Dickey said.

During still more discussion, several more ideas were tossed around, including visiting with the counselor at the high school to see if any seniors might be interested – for the future, “Because,” Gifford said, “sooner or later we’ll be short-handed again.”

Officer Dustin Paulsen arrived in the middle of the meeting, and when asked for ideas, he said that he’d personally contacted many past acquaintances and co-workers in law enforcement, and that most of the law enforcement agencies were having the same problem. “There are just not enough qualified people,” Paulsen said.

Eventually, Gifford said, “I don’t think it would be fair at this point, with three officers, to put you on straight salary. And without more time to try and come up with a fair program to pay any other way, I think we need to continue to pay hourly.” He added that he wanted to start the aggressive advertising campaign, and have a chance to sit down and work up another pay proposal.

Councilman Freeman said he thought that in order to keep from having to jump back and forth between hourly and salary, the council needed to come up with a base salary and then hourly for overtime.

Gifford and Freeman agreed that more time was needed, regardless of the formula used.
“I go ahead and make a motion that we continue with Chief Dickey on an hourly basis until we come up with a better plan,” Gifford said. Freeman provided the second, and the vote to approve was unanimous.

In other business, Council members:

• Agreed to write a letter of support, to several officials including Rep. Sid Miller, on behalf of a group of concerned citizens who would like to see a boat ramp open on the “DeLeon side” of Lake Proctor.

• Approved the second reading of Ordinance # 013-07; adoption of the 2007-08 fiscal year budget.

• Approved the second reading of Ordinance #014-07; adopting the tax rate for the levying of taxes for the fiscal year beginning October 1, 2007, and ending September 30, 2008.

• Approved payroll.

• Approved accounts payable.

• Passed on an agenda item described as “Cross Timbers Health Clinic building expansion” because no one from the clinic was at the meeting.

 

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